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Ro's avatar

Helen, I'm generally in agreement with you, but I think this attempts to be a bit too "balanced", thereby excusing some serious issues.

As a frog fortunately outside of your boiling pot, let me offer some external observations:

- the UK has an incredible "lawfare" problem, particularly in the area of freedom of speech. You state that Tommy Robinson is actually in jail for "contempt of court", not his political statements. Bear in mind the court he did not show up for is part of a British judiciary now infamous for handing out jail sentences for tweets. At the moments, your courts are in fact, absolutely contemptible, and, given their latest politically motivated decisions, they lack legitimacy.

- the UK also has an incredible "two-tier" justice problem, where, courtesy of Woke-like hysteria, immigrants have been significantly privileged over native Brits. The inevitable, wholly foreseeable consequences of allowing in a massive number of immigrants who not only do not share your culture, but have a number of beliefs absolutely antithetical to it, have been not just concealed, but occasionally celebrated by your current govt.

- Elon and Trump both rightly see the current state of one of our previously closest allies to be beyond precarious. Many Americans are simply aghast at what has become of the UK. I did a DPhil there, and I will no longer set foot in it. The people who gave the world the Magna Carta are now handing out slaps on the wrist to immigrants for rape while jailing Brits for tweets.

I encourage you to recognize the temperature and jump out of the pot. The skin you save might be your own.

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Anne T's avatar

Brilliant. Careful, honest analysis. Very hard to simplify and summarise this in a debate. So probably the best form, and an antidote to other approaches. Although of course, it’s impossible not to feel angry and horrified by the subject, so maybe all the more need for a philosopher to tackle it.

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