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Alan Sokal's avatar

Helen, I agree with your main liberal contention that all people should be free to express their own beliefs without external constraint, whether it is always using sex-realist pronouns (as some gender-critical feminists would do), or always using other people's preferred gender-identity pronouns (as some gender-identity advocates would do), or sometimes one and sometimes the other, depending on the circumstances (as I would do).

And I also agree that it is a bad idea to be gratuitously nasty to anyone, even if we liberals also defend people's *right* to be nasty.

That being said, I think Benjamin Ryan exaggerated in implying that using sex-realist language is *inherently* nasty, and that he grossly underestimated the harm that can be caused *in some cases* by using gender-identity language. As one commenter on Ryan's article eloquently observed:

"I get your position but I think you haven't discussed how circumstances may influence the conclusion. One thing is to use preferred pronouns in an ordinary setting, but what if you were to write an article about a convicted offender? I hope you too would acknowledge that "she raped her with her penis" is nonsense. Even the headline "woman convicted" is a lie that should be avoided. Finally, in court proceedings it would amount to conceding way too much, as in the currently ongoing case of the nurse against NHS Fife. I hope you'll recognize that in such cases avoiding any ambiguity matters more and shifts the weight of the arguments to use sex-based pronouns instead."

Curiously, Ryan didn't respond at all to this comment, though he responded to many other comments.

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Sarah Phillimore's avatar

indeed! I have just had to remove someone from commenting on my substack as they persisted in calling me a 'liar' 'deluded' and part of a 'clown show' because I commented that some people are genuinely transphobic. I attempted to be patient and explained that using this kind of language meant I didn't want to engage with her; and yet, she persisted. Some people, on 'both' and any side seem strangely invested in being as vile to others as they can. I guess it is a kind of freedom for some who may feel powerless in other areas of their lives. But it is very irritating and achieves nothing.

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