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Rudolph Rigger's avatar

Another great piece Helen - thank you.

I would class myself as "gender critical". There are 2 main reasons for this. I do think there's a conflicting set of 'rights' here (or privileges, or feelings, or however we might want to frame this) and that the legitimate concerns of a particular group (women) are being steamrollered and ignored by the also legitimate concerns of a much, much smaller group.

If we take the 'traditional' understanding of trans as someone with a severe 'gender' dysphoria then we have a person who, for whatever reason, is severely distressed by the body they have and want to be the opposite sex. I think for the majority here, "trans" is not an identity, it's a necessary method by which they can find some measure of peace and relief from their suffering. In fact, I suspect that, ideally, they don't want to be recognised as 'trans', but as their chosen sex.

It must be heart-breaking for these individuals who have undergone this tortuous and difficult medical process to be denied access to a space reserved for members of their chosen sex.

But, on the other hand, it's very clear that if we go down the route of self-ID, this will be abused by predatory individuals. I really don't know how to square the circle here.

I think you've hit the nail on the head when it comes to the lack of concern about transmen in men's spaces. Some single-sex spaces are important - it's great sometimes to just hang out with the guys, and it must be similarly great to just hang out with the girls. But I think women have another requirement over and above this social one - and that's entirely due to their vulnerability - a vulnerability that men (by and large) do not share.

As a not very physically imposing guy there would be certain places in a city where I would be afraid to walk at night, for example. But I can't say I've ever really been worried about the possibility of *sexual* assault. I think many women (most?) do have to worry about this extra dimension - and it must be an absolutely terrifying extra dimension.

This vulnerability and extra source of fear is the reason why we have single-sex spaces for women - particularly when it comes to things like rape crisis centres, or domestic violence shelters - and also why single-sex facilities like bathrooms and changing rooms are important.

But how we address these legitimate requirements whilst still being compassionate and decent to those who have undergone transition? I don't know. If we extend the notion of 'trans' to any who fall under the trans umbrella, then we have a serious problem that I don't think can be solved.

And this is the second reason why I'm "gender critical" - I can't make any coherent sense of it all. I don't understand 'gender', I don't understand 'gender identity' - they seem to be vague, subjective, terms that rely principally on stereotypes and stereotypical notions.

I don't know what it "feels like" to be a woman, I can only have an *idea* of what I *think* it feels like. But I also don't know what it "feels like" to be a man - I only know what it feels like to be me.

The other issue is that if we restrict our thinking to just the problem of man vs woman and the various societal stereotypes, it's bad enough trying to get your head round things. But we also have new 'genders' seemingly being discovered everyday. What are we to make of an individual who says that they used to be genderfluid but are now more gaseous or plasma gendered? It's absolutely farcical - and how do we separate what might be seen as 'legitimate' gender confusion when it comes to man vs woman and the crazy new stuff?

As far as I can tell at the moment, the only thing the concepts of 'gender' and 'gender identity' have brought is a massive amount of wholly unnecessary confusion.

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Julie Power's avatar

It seems to me that when you say you are not gender critical because you don’t agree with some gender critical women, itis a bit like the many women I know who say they are not feminists because they disagree with certain feminists. And yet, these « non feminists » believe women should have equal rights and opportunities. What I mean is, we are quibbling about a label more than about beliefs. If a person believes women sometimes have the right to single sex spaces, I think they are by definition gender critical. I consider myself gender critical because I believe sex is real. The reality of sex means that there are some situations where women require single sex spaces. And that’s all I need to believe to be gender critical. Some people who share that belief will have different ideas than I do about what motivates activists, etc. I often disagree with much of what certain gender critical writers believe, But we are fundamentally gender critical if we acknowledge the reality of sex. While I agree with all of your analysis, I don’t understand why you say that you are not gender critical and that you think women should be entitled to sigle sex spaces. I see those two things as incompatible- what am I missing? Or perhaps a better question is what should we call ourselves if we believe sex is a material reality that cannot always be ignored?

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