The point of moving Rudakubana to Broadmoor is to be able to drug him (aka 'treatment'). Prison officers are not allowed to sedate him or keep him with all possible weapons (such as a kettle) removed.
The assessment of him for sentencing him did not identify him as mad and in need of treatment. But, then psychiatrists and social workers have a poor record in advising who is mad or bad or who should be kept locked up for public safety.
Isolated and drugged in Broadmoor strikes me as appropriate. Staff there will be too experienced to be attacked by a kettle of boiling water. The problem will come when psychiatrists hubristically claim to have effected a cure.
Ultimately he is being removed from society for 52 years, and if his transfer is mainly about protecting other prisoners and guards from his behavior, it seems fairly pragmatic.
Civilization, and liberal thought, have solved many of the problems of how people can best live together in a society. But neither has yet arrived at a good solution to the problem of what to do about people who cannot or will not abide by the rules of civilization.
Thank you for a measured and thoughtful contribution. Necessarily most of us are totally unfamiliar with the respective internal regimes of a high security prison and similar psychiatric hospital.
My own opinion is that the death penalty was richly deserved in his case and that of Calocane who did not receive the sentence he merited and was meticulous in his pre-meditation of the crime, including not taking the meds he knew would manage his condition.
There is also a staggering lack of accountability for the numerous passive facilitators. Not all of these will have been guilty of suicidal empathy and a misguided saviour complex or mere arrogated pathological moral superiority. But a large part of the public are and virtually all of the self-righteous Establishment cognoscenti. The death and maiming of other people’s children should forfeit the compassion of a caring society not further vindicate their luxury beliefs
That’s a tough one. When it comes to the finality of death I tend to weigh in on the side of life. I often think it may be more difficult for those accused to live with the reality than to have everything erased by death
The point of moving Rudakubana to Broadmoor is to be able to drug him (aka 'treatment'). Prison officers are not allowed to sedate him or keep him with all possible weapons (such as a kettle) removed.
The assessment of him for sentencing him did not identify him as mad and in need of treatment. But, then psychiatrists and social workers have a poor record in advising who is mad or bad or who should be kept locked up for public safety.
Isolated and drugged in Broadmoor strikes me as appropriate. Staff there will be too experienced to be attacked by a kettle of boiling water. The problem will come when psychiatrists hubristically claim to have effected a cure.
Probably has ASPD: anti-social personality xx not mad, bad.
Ultimately he is being removed from society for 52 years, and if his transfer is mainly about protecting other prisoners and guards from his behavior, it seems fairly pragmatic.
Civilization, and liberal thought, have solved many of the problems of how people can best live together in a society. But neither has yet arrived at a good solution to the problem of what to do about people who cannot or will not abide by the rules of civilization.
Indeed, the meaning of 'penitentiary' is that the prisoner is expected to become penitent. Doesn't work in all cases.
Rational and reasonable as always, Helen.
Thank you for a measured and thoughtful contribution. Necessarily most of us are totally unfamiliar with the respective internal regimes of a high security prison and similar psychiatric hospital.
My own opinion is that the death penalty was richly deserved in his case and that of Calocane who did not receive the sentence he merited and was meticulous in his pre-meditation of the crime, including not taking the meds he knew would manage his condition.
There is also a staggering lack of accountability for the numerous passive facilitators. Not all of these will have been guilty of suicidal empathy and a misguided saviour complex or mere arrogated pathological moral superiority. But a large part of the public are and virtually all of the self-righteous Establishment cognoscenti. The death and maiming of other people’s children should forfeit the compassion of a caring society not further vindicate their luxury beliefs
That’s a tough one. When it comes to the finality of death I tend to weigh in on the side of life. I often think it may be more difficult for those accused to live with the reality than to have everything erased by death