It is always so good to read your clear, detailed, rational and considerate arguments. Your writings are so useful and enlightening, for anybody I believe who struggles with this mess of competing irrationality.
And what amazes me, and I truly admire, is your ability to maintain a cool mind, and a generous, understanding and liberal attitude, towards positions that make me so furious as to wish them and their holders erased from the face of the Earth. I hope I will always baulk at enacting such wishes or endorsing who does, but it is hard. Your words help with that.
Great unpacking of the issue! In my undergrad (2001-2005) and grad school (2005-2012) years I was consistently surrounded by people with a liberal attitude to gender. There were still areas of disagreement, but a lot of area of agreement that could be broadly taken for granted. It's a bit disorienting to observe that the past 15 years have featured a simultaneous surge in both conservative manosphere-type ideas on the one hand and authoritarian queer gender ideology on the other. It feels like us liberals haven't had the upper hand lately. Do you think this is likely to improve, though? Perhaps the appeal of the various illiberal ideologies will flame out?
This is my hope, yes. That people will get so sick of the extreme irrationalism, illiberalism and detachment from reality that they develop an appetite for reason, evidence and individual liberty.
2. Gender roles - defined but socially negotiable in my view
3. Gender stereotypes - often true on average (Lee Jussims work) - Rouglhly 50% biology, 50% environmental influence. At extremes of the distribution the stereotypes are often overwhelmingly true (basic science)
4. Gender affirming, dangerous to those wiith ROGD, unscientific, hints of religious zeal in supporters who think they are being nice to young trans when they might just be horrific to young lesbians. Data is mounting against them.
It is always so good to read your clear, detailed, rational and considerate arguments. Your writings are so useful and enlightening, for anybody I believe who struggles with this mess of competing irrationality.
And what amazes me, and I truly admire, is your ability to maintain a cool mind, and a generous, understanding and liberal attitude, towards positions that make me so furious as to wish them and their holders erased from the face of the Earth. I hope I will always baulk at enacting such wishes or endorsing who does, but it is hard. Your words help with that.
Great unpacking of the issue! In my undergrad (2001-2005) and grad school (2005-2012) years I was consistently surrounded by people with a liberal attitude to gender. There were still areas of disagreement, but a lot of area of agreement that could be broadly taken for granted. It's a bit disorienting to observe that the past 15 years have featured a simultaneous surge in both conservative manosphere-type ideas on the one hand and authoritarian queer gender ideology on the other. It feels like us liberals haven't had the upper hand lately. Do you think this is likely to improve, though? Perhaps the appeal of the various illiberal ideologies will flame out?
This is my hope, yes. That people will get so sick of the extreme irrationalism, illiberalism and detachment from reality that they develop an appetite for reason, evidence and individual liberty.
Well laid out. Every time a challenge arose from one paragraph it was addressed in the next one.
Traditional Gender Liberal
1. Sex - 2 Gametes ( sorry CAH does not count)
2. Gender roles - defined but socially negotiable in my view
3. Gender stereotypes - often true on average (Lee Jussims work) - Rouglhly 50% biology, 50% environmental influence. At extremes of the distribution the stereotypes are often overwhelmingly true (basic science)
4. Gender affirming, dangerous to those wiith ROGD, unscientific, hints of religious zeal in supporters who think they are being nice to young trans when they might just be horrific to young lesbians. Data is mounting against them.
C'est brilliant.