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Miles vel Day's avatar

Just say NO to X.

Gemma Dykstra's avatar

Lesbians are female homosexuals. Why are the Fantastic Lesbians speaking for bisexual women?

Isn't that a standpoint epistemolgy faux pas?

Pete McCutchen's avatar

Olivia Colman’s claim to be a nonbinary gay man is obviously retarded. By the same token, anyone who is so hurt by this retarded utterance that they write six paragraphs about it is likewise retarded. And I feel retarded for actually reading a whole article on this and commenting.

Mike Dennis's avatar

It's retarded turtles, all the way down.

Deborah Conte's avatar

Hilarioue comment, good laugh, thanks.

Paul Jenkins's avatar

I’m not sure saying “you’re not a gay man” would work with Olivia Colman. She’s an actor. Actors pretend to be things they’re not. It would be like telling her “you’re not the Queen.” But then maybe it doesn’t matter so much what would work with her, it’s what works with most people. I like to think that would be the principled reality-anchored arguments, at least in the long run.

Teed Rockwell's avatar

What Ms. Coleman said or implied was that she felt LIKE a gay man. That's open-ended enough that anybody should be allowed to say it. Wokeness has criminalized metaphors.

Stout Yeoman's avatar

Mr response to Ms Colean would have been how do you, a woman, know what it feels like to be a gay man?

Jonathan Blake's avatar

I think your revised formulation is perfect for any issue debate. A comment should apply the same against a range of contexts.

Jonathan Blake's avatar

Your revised formulation is perfect for applying to any issue! Just change the issue description.

Cynical Storyteller's avatar

Great essay, and great points raised. I just feel a little confused on the use of the term “gender non-conforming.” Is it meant to be a synonym for “non-binary” and/or to indicate feminine men and masculine women?

Helen Pluckrose's avatar

To indicate feminine men and masculine women.